It's an all-American (and all-star) lineup of guests this week, as Bill Bishop, Gady Epstein and James Fallows join Kaiser for an in-depth discussion of the Third Plenary Session, the outcome of which has produced a rare consensus among China-watchers — and an even rarer consensus among guests and host at Sinica. Trust us on this: this one is actually interesting.

So tune in for the latest political gossip from the dusty hutongs of the Capital, for the view on things from Washington these days courtesy of Jim Fallows, and for everyone's take on the troubles a certain financial news organization has been facing in recent weeks. And remember, in addition to listening online, you are also warmly invited to download this episode as a standalone mp3 file. Enjoy!
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November 22, 2013
Mentions

Bloomberg News Is Said to Curb Articles That Might Anger China, by Ed Wong for The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/asia/bloomberg-news-is-said-to-curb-articles-that-might-anger-china.html

China Airborne, by James Fallows

http://www.amazon.com/China-Airborne-James-Fallows/dp/1400031273

'False Contradiction' and the Never-Ending Big Question About China, by James Fallows for The Atlantic

www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/10/false...china/280898/‎

The China Fantasy: Why Capitalism Will Not Bring Democracy to China, by James Mann

http://www.amazon.com/The-China-Fantasy-Capitalism-Democracy/dp/0143112929

Bloomberg suspends reporter over China leak, by Demetri Sevastopulo for The Financial Times

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/daade7d6-4f52-11e3-b06e-00144feabdc0.html

At Bloomberg, Special Code Keeps Some Articles Out of China, by Edward Wong for the NYT's Sinosphere

http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/13/at-bloomberg-special-code-keeps-some-articles-out-of-china/

Spiked in China? conversation at ChinaFile

http://www.chinafile.com/spiked-china

The evolution of Bloomberg News, by Felix Salmon for Reuters

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/11/19/the-evolution-of-bloomberg-news/

Recommendations

Kaiser:

Xi Jinping Refills an Old Prescription, by Orville Schell for ChinaFile

http://www.chinafile.com/xi-jinping-refills-old-prescription

Gady:

1. The Scramble for China: Foreign Devils in the Qing Empire, 1832-1914, by Robert Bickers

http://www.amazon.com/The-Scramble-China-Foreign-1832-1914/dp/0141015853

2. Restless Empire: China and the World Since 1750, by Odd Arne Westad

http://www.amazon.com/Restless-Empire-China-World-Since/dp/0465019331

Jim:

The New York Review of Books

http://www.nybooks.com/

Bill:

In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler's Berlin Paperback

, by Eric Larson

http://www.amazon.com/In-Garden-Beasts-American-Hitlers/dp/030740885X
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November 24, 2013
This is simply Sinica at its best, four of the smartest China watchers on earth, melding minds, untangling knots and providing invaluable perspective. Certainly among the top-ten best episodes to date.
 said on
November 25, 2013
...despite the one F-bomb, and the 5 seconds of Kenny G.
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June 26, 2014
I know I'm more than half a year late to the party, but I'm trying to catch up on all my podcasts (I wasn't able to listen for the better part of a year), and just listened to this today.

I really enjoy the discussion, and it's helped me catch up on China news I've missed over the past year.

My one issue is that with so many guests, you run the risk of people talking over each other... which happened several times this episode. As a listener, it is difficult to follow when everyone is talking at once, and the guests begin to agree with each other over some shared knowledge, but they haven't taken the time to fill the listener in on that information.

Again, it was a very good episode, but I prefer episodes with fewer guests, because that allows for a more structured conversation.
Mark Lesson Studied